This week’s Supreme Court decision in the case known as Janus vs. AFSCME is expected to have a far-reaching impact on the union movement in America, but observers disagree as to what that impact will be. To some, it’s a much-needed adjustment to the way unions operate; to others, it’s a critical blow to the future of organized labor and to collective bargaining. The decision states that public sector employees who are not union members cannot be required to pay the so-called “agency fees” that are taken out of their paychecks. We’re speaking with two union representatives this morning, starting with Bobby Lee, the President of the Hawaii Fire Fighters Association. We are also joined by Christian Fern, the Associate Executive Director of the University of Hawaii Professional Assembly.